Oh, The Silencing

[I've talked about the Noisy Group in the previous post. I'm calling them the Noisy Group because they don't like being called "those people" and I don't like to link to them because they've silenced me before by piling on -- something they excel at -- (even though my silencing is not really silencing because I removed my own posts -- Hi, Ren! -- but the Beloved of the Noisy Group, by voluntarily taking down her blog, has been silenced). I'm not a masochist, so no links. This is unfortunately a very blog-insider kind of post so if you haven't been following the atrocities in the feminist blogosphere recently, you won't get most of it.]

One member of the Noisy Group is a Muslim woman called Aaminah Hernandez. She said this on her blog recently:

“So much is crystalizing in my mind about the concepts of media reform and media justice. So much that I want to say a corrupt system cannot be reformed. Yeah, I know I’ve talked about my opinion about corrupt systems before (and about how you can’t “reform” Islam because there’s nothing wrong with it to begin with).”

And so, with one sentence dripping with sanctimonious privilege, she “erased” (a word they love) erased, I say, my entire life before age 20, the loss of my community and family and childhood friends, the loss of my country and culture.

She also erased Muslim women reformists like Asra Nomani and Irshad Manji — one an unwed mother and the other a lesbian, neither accepted by their communities, both getting death threats every day of their brave lives — who are trying hard to make their religion a safe place for the “whores” and “unnatural sluts” they are.

She also erased the millions and millions of Muslim women who live under the world’s most currently dominant and widespread patriarchal religion, which oppresses women in their daily lives even as we soak in our privilege and are able to deny there are any problems with Islam that might need fixing. Will she get called on it? Don’t hold your breath. We believe in this alternative universe on calling people on their shit only when their names happen to be Jessica Valenti and Amanda Marcotte (or if they happen to be a struggling feminist press, for god’s sake).

Because you see, if a convert Muslim tells you so, then the holy book — the eternally true holy book authored by an almighty God — that prescribes and sanctions domestic violence for disobedient wives (in so many words) does not stand in need of reform and reinterpretation.

Because you see, if a convert Muslim tells you so — never having lived under a theocracy herself — you can swallow your “lived experience” (another term they love). Pretend it never happened. There must have been something wrong with you, because Islam is perfect exactly as it is. And if you suggest otherwise, you’re probably a racist (yes, I’ve been called a racist by a “black Muslimah” for criticizing her adopted religion which happens to be my birth religion).

The weirdest thing about this Noisy Group is, it’s composed of an unholy and discombobulating alliance between radical “sex-positives” and a bunch of people who value “community” (often sexist community) above individuality and who think Islam should be shielded from feminist criticism.

It leads to dissonance of this sort:

The brown voices in the Noisy Group silence all the brown voices that don’t agree with them much in the way the sex-positives complain the ‘radfems’ try to silence them. Yet the sex-positives line up and cheer when a brown woman is lynched by the Noisy Group.

It is dehumanizing to call illegal aliens “illegals” and leads to crimes against them because they are not seen as human. (The sex-positive contingent rises and cheers).

BUT

It is NOT dehumanizing to call women “cumwhores” and other porn-type names and there is absolutely no connection between women’s rapes and violent porn, because… well, I don’t know exactly why. Free speech? Anyway.

And nobody sees the contradiction. Note, I’m not taking a position on whether or not “illegals” is dehumanizing. Just pointing out an amusing contradiction.

By the way, was this the first time that a feminist had made the connections between dehumanizing language leading to rape and abuse of the dehumanized group? Was this the first time a feminist had pointed out that unchecked power in the hands of unscrupulous assholes leads to the rape and abuse of vulnerable people who are at their mercy? Did the whole feminist movement pass you by, folks, that this brilliantly original idea couldn’t possibly have occurred to anyone other than the Beloved of the Noisy Group?

The darker community-lovin parts of the Noisy Group have been observed by me often, often, speaking sneeringly of abortion. Yeah, who cares about abortion, right?

I am a deeply sexual woman and I didn’t have sex until I was 20 because I was terrified of getting pregnant. It would have meant the end of my life. I wasn’t on birth control (because I couldn’t get it) when I got raped and my first fear was not AIDS (and this in a third world country) — it was pregnancy.

Go on, sneer. Only white women care about abortion, right? And the “sex-positives” line up right next to this crowd to jeer at Planned Parenthood. Them — these supporters of a religion that drops brick walls on homosexuals, that openly executes them, that stones women to death for exercising their sexual autonomy.

The darker community-lovin parts of the Noisy Group have been observed by me often, often, speaking sneeringly of “white” feminists’ coverage of sexism. Yeah, who cares about sexism, right? It’s not like the feminist movement should care about discrimination and abuse against women, right? Well, not unless they’re brown anyway. Only brown women get raped and abused and then it only matters if they’re “undocumented” immigrants. And by the way, the feminist movement never cared about immigrant women getting raped, right? Not until the Beloved of the Noisy Group rose up and declared immigration to be a feminist issue - where I disagree. Women getting abused is a feminist issue. Immigration is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish.

You know, when I was struggling against patriarchy in my loving community which was destroying my soul and slowly squeezing the life out of me — to the point where I went on day-long fasts because I had lost the will to live — I didn’t need a feminist movement that told me Islam was okay. I didn’t need a feminist movement that said patriarchy — and the patriarchal religions used to prop it up — were good or perhaps beyond criticism because someone might suspect the critics of racism. I didn’t need judgment about my sexuality. I didn’t need to be told that solutions like abortion that had the potential to save my life were not important issues. Instead, these people say, let’s focus on my fucking community, the community that was sucking the life out of me.

I have always found in western feminists my source of strength. They held me up when I made the incredibly painful decision to leave my family, knowing there would be no going back. They reaffirmed what I knew about my sexuality — it was okay to be the way I was. They supported me, the individual, against the community that would assimilate me and destroy me. And you have to remember: my parents have always been loving and have never raised a hand against my person. Yet I feared my father would kill me if I left. Such is the power of this religion that does not need reform.

The uncompromising stance the second-wavers took on patriarchal religions and soul-destroying “communities,” women’s bodily autonomy and sexual freedom, is why I am a feminist.

Now we’re being asked to dilute that powerful feminism — which stood for women, individual women — by letting in religion and “community” at the back door.

I wonder why exactly the Noisy Group claims to be so frickin’ oppressed. They’re pretty prominent bloggers, all of them. Why do they need Feministing or Amanda Marcotte to link to them at all? They’re prominent voices in their own right. Why bully the white girls? I suspect, because they can. This is not about some outrageous injustice unleashed upon these “famous” bloggers — it’s about enforcing dominance.

I try to link to all the apostates from Islam I can find online. There are very few and even those few stop blogging soon after they start. There is no “community of apostates” online. Apostates from Islam are mostly silent, because they mostly aren’t in a place where they feel safe enough from their governments to speak out. And I get called a racist by American Muslim Black Converts for criticizing a religion that damn near destroyed my life — which I still feel actually did destroy my life because I will never get over losing my family. But of course there’s no silencing going on over here (silencing only happens when the Noisy Group says it has happened). Those who make it a habit of piling on liberal non-racist white feminists doing good work, pride themselves on calling out (in nasty vicious ways) what they think of as the white people’s blind spots. Yet their own blind spots are invisible to them and of course, since no one is lower on the victim totem pole than they, nobody can point out to them that maybe, just maybe, shielding Islam is not the most enlightened way to advertise your awareness of the suffering of other people. Maybe, just maybe, other oppressed groups — like apostates of Islam — find you trampling all over their “safe spaces” (yet another term they love) screaming about white privilege, rather… well, rude and disrespectful.

Just sayin’.

21 Responses to “Oh, The Silencing”

  1. And I get called a racist for criticizing a religion that damn near destroyed my life — which I still feel actually did destroy my life. But of course there’s no silencing going on over here

    “Race does not trump gender” should be broadcast to feminism, bloggers and the MSM.

    Why bully the white girls? I suspect, because they can. it’s about enforcing dominance.

    My mom, a WOC, bullies me because she can. And because she’s ignorant about feminism.

  2. Yet the sex-positives line up and cheer when a brown woman is lynched by the Noisy Group.

    Apostate, please be careful here not to do what you are pointing out that the ‘Noisy Group’ is doing - lumping a bunch of individuals together. Not all ’sex positives’ are doing what you say here.

  3. I know, Amber, I know.

    I am trying not to name names and I am angry as all hell, but the distinctions are there in my mind.

    I don’t even really have all that much personally against many in the Noisy Group either. It’s the way they gang up on people, it’s the blogwars, that really get to me. It’s how they dump nuance. It’s how they drown out dissent. It’s how they attack good people.

    And most importantly — because if it was just about them, I wouldn’t get upset — most importantly, it’s the way they’re negatively influencing some feminist discourse, such as the one on religion or the power of the individual.

    I acknowledge the contributions they’re making and I acknowledge their right to be shit-disturbers. But the level of combined viciousness is unbelievable.

    Sorry if I’m offending people. I’m tired of biting my tongue.

  4. Yet their own blind spots are invisible to them

    And gods help you if you point out those blind spots, because then, even if you’re another POC, you’re being racist!.

    Or classist, incapable of understanding Deh Black Folkz and Deh Black Wimminz!

    Oh, right. Sorry, just reliving some interesting times on my own blog from a couple of months ago. Anyhoo, this post makes me glad I tend to avoid almost all of TNG’s blogs. I guess I just can’t stand the hypocrisy.

  5. As one of the noisy group, who will no doubt displease people by saying this, I have to say…I agree with you that there are a whole lot of things about living as a woman in an Islamic country that a lot of otherwise intelligent people don’t really seem to understand. Like the choice argument in terms of veiling…for some women, for many women, it’s not a choice they are being allowed to make. And even in countries where not veiling is technically not illegal, like Saudi Arabia where I once lived, one takes a lot of risks by not doing so.

    Eh, I’m going to piss a lot of people off by saying this, but I just wanted you to know that there are some other people out there in feminist blogland who understand the nuanced distinction you’re making in terms of this stuff.

    I don’t agree with your take on the Marcotte situation at all, BTW, and I’m friends with a lot of the people you don’t like, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t see and value the point you’re making about religion. Having spent 11 years of my life in the Middle East I’d have to be a fool not to see it.

    Also, anyone who has bad things to say about Irshad Manji will have to go through me first.

  6. Don’t bite your tongue. Keep going. It is never easy. But you are proud. You have a powerful voice that needs the freedom.

    Write. Write like your life depends on it. Because it does. And for those women (and men) who want out but can’t.

    I’ll stand behind you or next to you whenever you want. Just a weak man from Africa. But there when you need me.

  7. Definitely don’t bite your tongue.

  8. I’m glad you are speaking out about your experiences and your, and all women’s, rights to feminist criticism.

  9. This post, Apostate, STUNS. Thank you for writing it.

    …it’s composed of an unholy and discombobulating alliance between radical “sex-positives” and a bunch of people who value “community” (often sexist community) above individuality and who think Islam should be shielded from feminist criticism.

    The interesting thing about this alliance is, a number of its members aren’t feminists at all. They specifically (sometimes adamantly) state that they are not feminists. Aaaminah has written on more than one occasion that she is not a feminist, as have others in this particular group. So we have nonfeminists/anti-feminists criticizing feminists, certainly nothing new there. What is odd is that for reasons unarticulated, somehow as feminists, we are expected to pay attention to/respond to these critiques coming from anti-feminists in a way we never would or do so far as other anti-feminists/nonfeminists are concerned, and particularly anti-feminists/nonfeminists who are members of patriarchal religious groups (!), who are male, white, and heterosexual, vested in the pornography industry/getting money from it, as some of this crowd are, etc. I mean, sure, anybody can critique feminism, but I am only going to pay close attention to critiques coming from those who, themselves, are committed to ending sexism/misogyny, hello! I am not going to pay much attention to critiques of feminism which come form sexists, or those vested, in some way, in sexist religions/institutions (and that’s so even if they *do* identify as feminists). *Of course sexists oppose feminism.* It’s come to that, really, that the most absolutely *basic*, no brainer, points, apparently have to be reiterated.

    Another thing is, the most vitriolic critiques of “white feminists” in this particular group often (not in every case) , but often, come *from white people* — usually “sex positives” so-called, a number of them of them *men* — who have everything to gain from “decentering” *certain* kinds of “white feminism” (which is really a meaningless term as it has come to be used on the internet, it’s another thought-stopping cliche), in particular, feminism which is vocally anti-pornography, anti-prostitution, anti-trafficking, which steadfastly and vocally opposes the brutalities of patriarchal religion, the hypocrisies of the sexist, misogynist Left, and so on. This was nowhere more evident than in the clobbering you took, the Apostate, over Planned Parenthood, where the thread quickly filled with white people, including at least one white woman who has never identified as a feminist and has been open about it, vocally taking you to task for not towing a party line that they, as white non- and anti-feminists demand feminists (of whatever race) must tow. That was one of the most surreal threads I have ever had the misfortune to read. Since when do anti-feminists/nonfeminists/sexists define feminism for feminists, and all with a straight face. Again, to me, it is surreal, not worth my time or the investment of my energy, any more than it would be worth my time and energy, say, to accept critiques from/dialogue with some fundamentalist Christian from my old world who showed up on my blog to argue with me. Of *course* fundamentalist Christians oppose feminism, they are not feminists, they are deeply misogynist in most cases, and I have no interest in their “critiques” of feminism, “white” or otherwise. The same is true, for the most part, for this “Noisy Crowd” you are talking about.

    Anyway, you rock.

    Heart

  10. This was an extraordinarily powerful post. Thank you.

  11. Apostate,

    Great post and well constructed critical analysis of post-modern feminist ideology. I agree with some points. However, I have reservations about your “perhaps” unintentional call for praise of your “Beloveld Community” that you have lost. Why? Why do you refer to it as a “beloved community” and so on. That’s contradictory. Your community is the cause of your your “damnation” as they would like to call it. It is the source of your alienation, of your past humiliation and suffering. Why resort to apologetic calls for its benign existence as if its actions, beliefs and supertitions are merely transparent and secondary. These are its “raisons d’etre.” You cannot separate them.

    You need to delink yourself from this idea that the community is “good”. As I said yesterday in your entry of your identification thread and reminding you of Mendela’s quote: “We are now free to be free.”

    Are you not free to be free? or are you free not to be free?

    You know very well that you must free to be free.

    All the best.

  12. Oh, thank you. This whole mishegoss has been unbelievable. I started reading some of TNG’s blogs a while back, but just couldn’t take it.

    On a personal note, I’m glad you escaped all the things that were oppressing you. And I know the pain of dealing with family members who are still stuck in that way of thinking. (Mine aren’t Muslim, but where I come from “MizDarwin” pretty well means “the apostate”!)

  13. Zaki, I think you misunderstood me. I am being ironic about these communities being good.

  14. I really did not get your ironic meaning. Sorry.

  15. No person is your friend who demands your silence. –Alice Walker

  16. Wait, criticism is silencing? Aren’t you silencing poor and marginalized people who have been encouraged by Planned Parenthood to take Norplant and Depo Provera while wealthy, white women have not? I find it funny that you’re censoring criticisms and claiming that it is you who is “silenced”.

  17. Generally, bloggers block comments that have ad-hominem attacks, threats or vulgar language with no point. The people who brought up the racial disparities of the services of a particular institution did none of these things.

  18. I do admit, my comments were harsher than anyone else’s - I am also a South Asian atheist feminist, so perhaps I felt less of a need to tiptoe around.

  19. Bq, 1), all atacks against PP were spurious or outdated at best. 2) I am not silencing anyone as I don’t have the power to shut down anyone else’s blog or prevent them from starting one. 3) Generally, bloggers block whoever the fuck they want. 4) You are not blocked. I simply have to individually approve every comment. 5) You are not unique in not tip-toeing.

    And just for the record, I have published every single comment left recently. None have been deleted.

    I’m thinking I probably should block you. If someone keeps coming here, to my blog, and routinely leaving nasty comments because they disagree with me or despise me, I stop feeling the need to give them a space to express their displeasure with me. If you find me so objectionable, why don’t you stop reading me?

    I am not obligated to publish anything on this blog except my own words. That’s not censorship or silencing. You would perhaps realize that if you didn’t have your head up your ass.

  20. If someone keeps coming here, to my blog, and routinely leaving nasty comments because they disagree with me or despise me, I stop feeling the need to give them a space to express their displeasure with me. If you find me so objectionable, why don’t you stop reading me?

    I am not obligated to publish anything on this blog except my own words. That’s not censorship or silencing.

    Hear hear, and gmta. There is a certain number of commenters to my blog who pretty much only comment to piss in threads in some way. I’m done with them, and especially in that most of them don’t have their own blogs! Instead of pissing in threads on my blog, that I have spent a buttload of time working on, why don’t they get off their lazy asses and make their own blogs where they can say whatever whenever they want? People on the internet can be such incredible jerks.

    Anyway. Yeah.

  21. Apostate, thank you for writing this post. There’s so much here to take in.

    I missed the threads you were talking about in this post, and have had a different experience of BFP, but I just wanted to say I’m really glad you’re writing about the consequences of patriarchal theocracy to women, and challenging group-think of any kind. And I hate that you’ve been attacked for this.

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