I’m a little drunk (see left), so I’m going to talk about Cindy Sheehan.
Larry (husband) has been dabbling with communism. He’s more putting them on the spot than anything else, and they need it. Liberals can’t get shit done without someone asking them for a fucking Plan for the revolution. Anyway, in case you were curious, yeah, me as a budding citizen = not going to communist meetings. Despite the ironic fact that I have sprung forth from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the two hotbeds of the new Red Green Scare (the Islamists), it will probably look worse for me to be a Communist than to be a Muslim.
From the sound of it, I’m not missing much.
Well, one of the communists told Larry that Cindy Sheehan was going to be debating army recruiters in Berkeley, CA. We decided to show up.
Gawd. I hate liberals.
They love to hear themselves talk. Okay, so I know I hardly have a right to be complaining about that, but dammit! when I, as an audience member, ask a question of the speaker, I fucking ask a question – I don’t make a speech. AND I keep it short. I quite realize that beyond cool as I am, I am not the reason the rest of the audience is there and they would probably appreciate it if I shut up fast so they can all get the hell out instead of leaving early and feeling resentful because they might have missed something.
Liberals talk too damn much and they don’t fucking DO anything. They don’t even vote — on principle!
The communists are also part of World Can’t Wait, an organization dedicated to getting Bush impeached (apparently the world could wait). There were a couple of old Berkeley hippie types selling buttons “Impeach Bush” at the door of the church (!) in which Cindy was going to speak. I started talking to them about who they were going to vote for and said I would vote for McKinney. They scoffed, “She hasn’t a chance!” Yeah, and we have a pretty good chance of impeaching Bush, right?
I got into an argument with our communist revolutionary, trying to talk him into at least voting on the ballot initiatives that are part of California’s love affair with direct democracy. He didn’t quite know how that would be “validating the system” because it’s not, but he didn’t have arguments ready. Unfortunately, Cindy Sheehan walked in before I could win.
Cindy Sheehan is a tall blonde grandmother. I will say this: She was better than I thought she would be (she was articulate), but underwhelming. I had expected more fierceness. She was very gentle, almost too much so, and the fake tenderness she has apparently adopted to reflect in her voice/cadence/style of speech, was not pleasant. She tended to drone on and on.
Her message was anti-war and she told the sad but unremarkable story of her son who died in Iraq. She has definitely done good by using her grief to spread the anti-war message and she’s had a tough time at the hands of hawkish Americans, especially as a woman. I admire her strength and how she got so radicalized. It takes a rare kind of person to change the direction and style of one’s life in middle age.
But she was going to debate the military recruiters that Berkeley has been trying to kick out. And the recruiters pulled out of the debate. That was a disappointment, but Cindy went into her viewpoint of why these recruiters are so bad and the point was made. I actually wasn’t aware of all the ways in which they are pernicious and dangerous to have in and around high schools. I’m not a pacifist, but our military is not doing well by our troops and war is no place for young kids.
I say, if they can’t drink until 21, they can’t pick up guns and kill people either. Iraq is not a video game.
Our male troops are also rapists. They rape their fellow soldiers and the women of countries they invade. If your son is a person of ordinary moral strength, he might become a rapist. To me, that’s a sufficient reason to keep a recruiter away from your son.
But there are other reasons, for instance, the lies the recruiters tell to entice naive children into warfare. The false promises of generous benefits and no combat duty. That shit is bad. (Sorry, drinking ruins my vocabulary. “That shit is bad” is the best I can do in this addled state.)
And oh – she’s running for Congress against Nancy Pelosi.
Anyway.
The crowd. Suffice it to say that I was the only one with lipstick on. I felt kinda out of place. One thing was pretty fucking refreshing: To be in a room full of liberals, none of whom wanted to vote for Obama. Including the blacks, who actually were pretty decorative — this one black dude, if he hadn’t been so eager to talk over the speaker and everyone else, would’ve been pretty hot.
Speaking of doods talking over everyone else, I was glad when Cindy was taking questions and after five questions speeches from long-winded men, started taking only women’s questions. (Sure enough, the women actually asked questions.)
I met a sweet young socialist feminist who gave me her org’s newspaper. The Communists also gave me their newspaper. What’s with these unknown leftist groups and their newspapers? Who the fuck reads newspapers, let alone unknown leftist orgs’ newspapers?
Why the fuck don’t all the communists have blogs? What’s with wasting precious funding on newspapers?!
I’m really pissed about that bow to nostalgia because it demonstrates the left’s problem: We can’t fucking grow up. We’re stuck in the sixties. We want student movements. We want secret meetings. We can’t afford to live in San Francisco but we still delude ourselves that San Francisco is a progressive city.
Progressive, my ass! I know more conservative gay guys here than you would have thought existed.
Speaking of the “progressive” Bay Area. Berkeley’s law school, Boalt Hall, is one of the country’s best. It has the honor of employing John Yoo (he of the torture memos) in a tenured law faculty position.
Yes.
There’s a campaign afoot to oust the asshole. If you’re a Berkeley alum or know someone who is, send a letter. Hell, send in that postcard anyway — another voice can’t hurt.
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That “women ask questions, men give speeches in the form of questions” is true of every conference–political, academic, and sci-fi–that I have ever been to. (Me being the only person in the room wearing lipstick is almost always true as well. I guess we’ll recognize each other if we’re ever at a conference together, Apostate!)
“Our male troops are also rapists. They rape their fellow soldiers and the women of countries they invade. If your son is a person of ordinary moral strength, he might become a rapist. To me, that’s a sufficient reason to keep a recruiter away from your son.”
Jesus Fucking Christ you sound as crazy as Cindy Sheehan! Funny that I spent 3 years in the Army and don’t remember one case of rape involving my fellow soldiers. Want to see some rapists here in the Bay Area…or have some first hand experiences if you are a woman? Just go down to East or West Oakland or Richmond after dark. Doubt any of those dudes will be wearing uniforms unless you count baggy pants, ear rings and $200 tennis shoes as uniforms.
Cindy Sheehan and apparently you too are just more evidence that the far left can equally be as goofy as the far right! Fuck you all!
Harvey, the military’s rape culture is a fact, unfortunately, not a construction of the “loony left.”
Sheehan is not crazy.
And oh…your racism is showing, jerk.
Racists, rapists, it’s just one different letter.
“Our male troops are also rapists. They rape their fellow soldiers and the women of countries they invade. If your son is a person of ordinary moral strength, he might become a rapist. To me, that’s a sufficient reason to keep a recruiter away from your son.”
I did 20 years and retired from the USAF. There are rapists in the military. Just as there are rapists in the general population. I have no huge amount of data to compare it statisticaly. But I will state from my own personal experience the the numbers favor the military having less rapists than the general population. And no I was never on the ground in Iraq or Aphganistan. But I do know that every man and woman in the military has been briefed (indoctunated even) that rape as a tactic is not allowed.
I could go on and on. And I understand your point. But the way it was stated it made everyone SOUND like they are rapists. And that is a long way from the truth. And I can guarentee that I never raped anyone. Nor do I think any of the 40 odd people I supervised during that time did either. And I am sure I have no more than “ordinary moral strength”. The closest I can think of is a married woman I knew who’s husband I suspected of abusing her. I don’t know what happened behind closed doors, but I am sure he at least hit her. And yes I did everything I could to get her help.
Now, before all the military men come out of the woodwork to assure me they personally have never raped anyone and don’t know of any rapes happening around them… I know not everyone in the army is a rapist and I am not saying every one of them, down to the last man, is a rapist.
But if our society, on a larger level, encourages and defends rape, the military undeniably has an even more woman-hating culture and there are figures of rape of fellow soldiers that should be a scandal. This is a worse problem in the military than in civilian life and no surprise either, considering how misogynistic macho cultures tend to be.
And clearly, not enough is being done to fix the problem. I’m not sure anything is being done to fix the problem, because like you and Harvey, most people don’t seem to think there IS a problem. Even prosecution of reported rapes is not taking place.
Until this changes, I can and WILL use hyperbole to emphasize just how very shameful all this is.
If that hurts your feelings, I’m sorry but I’m sure you can handle it.
Until this changes, I can and WILL use hyperbole to emphasize just how very shameful all this is.
IMNSHO, claiming that anyone with average moral strength will become a rapist, is far beyond mere hyperbole, and detracts (distracts?) considerably from your argument.
That being said, I certainly can’t disagree that the behavior of our armed services have done a terrific job of making an ass out of us, just as every other aspect of our recent “military actions” has.
And I have to think that the culture of rape and abuse are a natural consequence of our ever-increasing incentives to lower our standards for who we pursue for enlistment. <sarcasm&t;Naturally, we won’t lower our incentives far enough to allow openly gay servicepeople</sarcasm>
Micah, rape isn’t that big of a step for most men to take. If most people of ordinary moral strength can be influenced into torture (I don’t believe I need to point you to the experiments), they can be influenced to rape.
It’s not really even hyperbole to say that, let alone far beyond it.
Apostate,
I have noticed that the women raised in Moslem societies assume that men are or can be rapists. My wife feels safe in America and doesn’t worry about being raped. But she does not feel the same in her own country. I have several female friends from moslem societies who all have the same attitude. Like it is normal that all men are sex starved pervs and rapists. None of the women I know from Europe or the USA think like that.
If I see a photo of you in a bikini I don’t automatically assume you are a whore because you are wearing a bikini. It would not occur to me. Whereas an Arab or Pakistani male would assume you are. Yet you see men in the US military and you assume they are rapists?
So is there a chance that your opinion of moslem men has been projected onto military men? Is the way you were raised affecting your opinion ? Even a little bit?
The US military has been integrated by race, gender and religion longer than I can remember. It is by no means perfect, and more needs to be done to support women. There are still rapists just as there are female recruits that are husband hunting baby machines.
I would suggest that you enlist or become an officer for a few years and work to change it from the inside out. You would probably get a bonus for joining as you have language skills that are in high demand.
That and you would be working in intel against all those sexist islamic males! Just a thought!
Oh and go Air Force if you want to talk to a recruiter. We treat ALL our people better. If you think all recruiters lie, go talk to one and call him on his lies. You may be surprised!
RJP,
No, it’s not my Islamic background that makes me see military men as rapists. It’s my understanding of human nature.
It’s the rare human who can resist a culture of evil. The military and prisons are two prime constructs for human evil to have full play. I don’t plan on joining the military for the same reasons I don’t want to go to jail — I don’t enjoy being systematically dehumanized and taught to dehumanize others.
This is not about men, per se. It’s about people. If you’ve heard of the Milgram experiments, if you’ve heard of the Stanford prison experiment, hell, if you’ve heard of the Nazis, you would get it.
You should perhaps skip the political parts of my blog as well as the feminist.
Seems like a combination of “Idle hands are the devil’s tools” and “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Trouble is there are tools and systems in place for the reporting and punishment of this particular crime, as well as a society-wide intolerance for that sort of thing.
No matter how much of an iron grip you might have on society as a whole there will still be people who quite frankly are just plain evil. Laws and courts do their job but can only do so much. Short of cutting off the arms and legs of each and every human being alive and born from here on and having us be completely dependent on servant robots (and even then some people will be born out of the system), there is no way to ensure that a human does not decide to buck all rules, regulations, and morality in general.
Of course we could all just die, but that doesn’t cleanse humanity so much as doom it.
“You should perhaps skip the political parts of my blog as well as the feminist.”
If RJP and everyone who disagreed with you did that, your posting them would be a wasted effort.
I assume, of course, you are looking to both educate and learn…not to preach to a choir.
But then I try to assume the best of people. :P
Dan, learn: yes, educate: no. I don’t actually believe people can be educated as such — they can only learn, and only if they are committed to it. Most aren’t, and I’m not about to change that by blathering on an obscure blog.
My comment to RJP was sarcastic. When he said that he skips the feminist parts of my blog, I thought to myself, “there isn’t much on my blog that is not about or related to feminism” but I let it go. Now it’s apparent he doesn’t share my political views either. Hence my comment.
I don’t understand your speech on morality and human evil. I mean, are you making a point? I’m not being rude, just curious if I’m missing something.
By the way, the laws and courts don’t really do their job when it comes to rape victims. The “system that is in place” and the “tools that are available” really suck.
I also notice that you assume, as Muslims do, that men have no control over their sexuality.
The only difference between you and other Muslims is that they blame women for this bullshit assumption and you blame men.
But you’d be right that the Army turns all its men into rapists, if you were talking about the Sudanese army, however we have higher standards in the west.